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How‌ ‌a‌ ‌Beginner‌ ‌to‌ ‌Commercial‌ ‌Painting‌ ‌Booked‌ ‌$600k‌ ‌in‌ ‌Her‌ ‌First‌ 4‌ ‌Months..‌ ‌and‌ ‌Hit‌ ‌$2.2M ‌by‌ ‌12 ‌Months‌ ‌(Without‌ ‌the‌ ‌Big ‌Risks)‌ ‌ ‌

How much easier would it be to put $10k profit in your pocket on a single job… instead of estimating, selling and managing 4 - 5 jobs for the same amount?

ONE easy to deal with customer, instead of 4-5 picky homeowners.

Parking it at ONE jobsite for a week or two, instead of running all over town to multiple job sites everyday.

If you’re a painting contractor that hasn’t tapped into the commercial market yet, you probably know you’re missing out on tens of thousands of dollars every single week.

But what you might not know, is just how simple, low-risk and highly profitable commercial painting can be.

Don’t get me wrong.

Although I’m landing simple, highly-profitable commercial jobs now...

I’ve also gotten my ass kicked in commercial painting.

(I’ll share more on that in a moment… stick around to hear exactly what mistakes I made, so you can avoid them)

It’s true that jumping into commercial painting with no guidance is extremely risky.

The risks and the complexity are what stop most painting contractors from even trying to land these jobs.

Maybe that’s what’s stopped you?

There is a way to avoid these risks…

But before I get into that, in case you don’t know…

You can easily add simple commercial jobs like these onto your existing residential business…

  • $20k profit in 4 days painting a Kohl’s department store exterior
  • $16k in profit in 3 days on a dryfall ceiling for a new construction job
  • $37k in profit in 3 weeks on an exterior condo building

These are real numbers, from real jobs I’ve done this past couple of years.

More importantly, I’ve helped OTHER painting contractors get these results:

Adding commercial painting jobs into your business can be life-changing.

It can quickly take a residential painting business that’s doing a couple hundred thousand per year, and catapult it into several million.

And it can happen FAST.

Even better, when it’s done the RIGHT way commercial painting is easier than residential.

How easy?

This is another job one of the painting contractors I helped recently landed.

$10k on one single jobsite. Just a fence repaint.

Imagine how many job sites you’d have to manage to make that with residential.


Yep, that’s right. $14k profit in one week.

Are you beginning to see how simple this is?

I am personally starting a new company in Ohio right now, and this time I’m going straight into commercial.. because it's easier. 

In case you don’t know me already...

I’m Eric Barstow, and over the last 15+ years I’ve coached thousands of painters and painting contractors to start and grow successful painting companies.

Unlike a lot of coaches, I practice what I preach and I’m actively operating painting companies at National Painting Group.

… Where we own and operate 5 painting companies that did over $7.5 million dollars in revenue in 2020 (and are on pace for over $12 million in 2021).

I’m 34 years old and live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife Josephine, 16 month old daughter Isabella, and my dog Decker.

I didn’t have to wait until I had one foot in the grave to make this much money, and it’s all thanks to the incredible opportunity that’s available in the painting business…

...and the guidance I’ve gotten along the way.

Guidance that I want to share with you.

Because business is a vehicle to provide a great life.

But too many business owners are RUN BY their business… instead of RUNNING their business.

One of the big challenges I see fellow painting contractors struggle with is that to grow a painting business, you have two options:

      1. Increase the quantity of jobs
      2. Or, increase the job size 
By increasing both the quantity of jobs and how much they’re earning per job.

While also cutting their work hours down to 10-15 hours per week.

And they’ve done well, growing their businesses from four or five figures (hustling and grinding 50+ hours per week) to reaching $1M-2M+ working only part-time.

But to take your business to $3M-$5M and beyond without adding commercial jobs is very challenging.

That’s a lot of homeowners.

And a lot of estimates.

You will need to build a big team to reach that… and building teams is HARD.

But by adding commercial jobs to your business... 

You Can Get to $3M - $5M+ 
With Only a Handful of Customers

Partly because the job sizes are bigger.

Once you do one project that makes 35 grand instead of 25 houses for the 35 grand...

You want to keep doing more of that.

How many commercial painters do you hear drooling over residential jobs?

You never see that, and there’s a reason.

But bigger job sizes with fewer customers aren’t the only benefits.

Also..

There’s practically zero marketing costs.

Because you really only need to sell yourself once.

The guys you’re doing jobs for aren’t managing just one property.

They’ve usually got a dozen or more other properties they’re managing.

Sometimes hundreds.

Plus they have buddies who also manage dozens (or hundreds) of properties.

So one job creates a flood of new jobs coming your way.

Once you’re in with your first job.. if it goes well, that can turn into a $300k (or very often, much more) per year relationship where you’re fed ongoing jobs constantly.

Just imagine that.

You don’t have to go out there and constantly do marketing and sell jobs.

Instead you get a call from someone you’ve done a building or two for before, who says hey.. I’ve got 5 more buildings that need work.

And…

They’re not as picky as homeowners.

They’re not trying to make their living room look perfect for a family Thanksgiving dinner.

You’re working with guys who are just doing their job.

Like the HOA manager who just needs to get something repainted as part of his to-do list.

They don’t need it to be perfect.

That doesn’t mean you intentionally do poor quality work.. It’s just not being super scrutinized the way it would with a homeowner.

They’re not going to walk the entire building room by room, hall by hall searching for tiny flaws.

These are warehouses, department stores, office buildings etc that just need a fresh coat of paint.

So the guy in charge of managing it will look it over, say something like “cool, looks good” and get you paid.

And with the specific segment of commercial work I’m going to show you how to focus on, these guys are..

Not price sensitive either..

Because they’re typically not using their own money for the job.

So they’re not trying to haggle and get your prices down.

They have funds available from the company they work for.

All they need to do is hire someone who will get the job done efficiently, without bothering the people in the building.

They don’t want the cheapest option.

What they want is to get the job done quickly, without a lot of disruption.

Their priorities are different, so you never want to approach these jobs the same way as you would with homeowners.

What you think is important based on your experience in residential, may cause you to mess up a commercial job.

And you don’t want to make a mistake that could be avoided and lose that relationship, because that means also losing the dozens of others they have.

Like I said before, despite how easy and profitable commercial painting is.. what usually stops most people from getting into it are the risks.

And rightfully so.

Without the right knowledge, commercial painting is extremely risky and puts many painting contractors out of business.

In fact, a couple of my best friends were
stiffed out of $100k on a commercial job

They were working on a really big project - in the $250k range.

Right at the end, the general contractor stiffed them out of the last 100k they were owed.

There was basically nothing they could do because of the ‘fine print’ in the contract that they needed to sign to do the job.

It actually said in the contract (in confusing legal terms) something along the lines of.. we can either pay you or not pay you at the end.. and you’re ok with that.

After this happened, they heard from a handful of other people “oh yea - that general contractor did that to us too”...

This is just part of the business model for some contractors.

It’s a very real thing.

So yes, it can seem complex, because it’s these small details that make it so risky...

If you’re doing it alone, without someone in your corner who has already learned the lessons, and knows how to spot these dirty tactics…

Or you run into common mistakes that happen simply because “you don’t know what you don’t know”.

Like one of the painful lessons I personally learned the hard way.

We missed a small detail in the contract, and didn't know we needed a boom lift.

By the time we realized it, we’d already started the job... and when we tried to rent one, they were booked a week out.

We already had all the masking tape put up, the project was delayed, and their tenants got pissed off.

We lost about $13,000, wasted weeks of our time,
and lost that relationship..

That one relationship could have been
worth hundreds of thousands of dollars

There weren’t any dirty tactics involved, I just didn’t have the experience yet to understand the scope of work.

Until now, learning the hard way has been the only option for pursuing the commercial market.

It’s considered “normal” to have your ass kicked for 4-5+ years, learning what not to do the next time around.

That’s IF your business can even survive the lessons.

And some don’t.

I’ve had people tell me they lost an entire year’s worth of profit from one commercial job gone wrong.

The fact that you’re reading this tells me you’ve seen the opportunities and want to bid on these jobs.

Maybe you have even bid on a few.

Or you wanted to, but something stopped you.

Maybe it was a fear of bidding incorrectly (a valid concern, since you can lose tens of thousands of dollars from just one mistake).

Or worrying about cash flow (some jobs do take months to get paid on and if you don’t spot the red flags, you may not get paid at all).
  • I can show you how to land jobs with a deposit upfront, just like in residential painting.
  • Plus… How you can work in progress payments along the way, so you won’t have cash flow issues.
  • Plus… How you can work in progress payments along the way, so you won’t have cash flow issues.
It’s possible to skip the painful learning curve and expensive mistakes, and be landing big projects quickly and safely.

Part of this is knowing what segment to start with and focus on.

Commercial painting is a HUGE industry with multiple different sectors/segments of the market

So it’s even more complicated.
 
There’s managed residential, managed commercial, small commercial, large commercial, new construction with blueprints, industrial, big box retail…
 
And each of these segments has little nuances and details about them. 
 
And if you don’t “get it right”... the stakes are really high… Mistakes and failures can be incredibly costly. 

So here’s just a quick overview of the 4 segments of the commercial market...

Commercial Repaints


These are offices, dentists, doctors, lawyers, offices, and so on. They need to be repainted just like a house.

So it's very similar to what you do in residential already.

It’s very profitable, and it's an enormous market. There are billions of dollars of repaint work being done just in the Chicago area every single year.

That’s billions, in just one single city.

So no matter where you are, the opportunity is enormous. It doesn’t matter if you’re in the suburbs. Those are packed with plenty of stores and offices too.

General Contracting


These are larger projects. It can be ground up, large scale, warehousing.. it can be all sorts of things, but it’s risky because a lot of GCs are shady.

Not all, but there’s definitely an earned reputation for dirty GCs that use all kinds of tricks to get around having to pay you.

Another of the dozens of red flags to avoid here, is where GCs ask you to bid on a job they don’t even have yet.

They’re basically using you to do their own bid, and a lot of times won’t even give you the job when they land it because they already have another painter.

And you need certain things in place for your cash flow, because they have to get the money from the owner, so you’ll be waiting longer to be paid.

Inside of this segment, there's negotiated versus non negotiated work.

This can be a very, very lucrative segment to work in… if you have an expert in your corner showing you how to do it the right way.

Industrial


This is one of the most difficult segments to get into.

There's some certifications you might need, additional layers of safety training, different insurance.

There's a lot more risks, and the margins can be much lower.

This is not where you want to start and very likely will never do any of this work (the other segments are much easier, more profitable and are huge markets).

It's very complicated, high risk, and challenging.

Public Works


This is anything the federal, state or local government pays for.

Bridges, water treatment plants, water tanks, and other government owned properties.

There are 2 big downsides to this market:
  • Loads and loads of paperwork. Requires a couple full time people just to manage all the paperwork.
  • By law, the jobs are required to go to the lowest qualified bid
If you land one of these jobs, it means you either made a mistake, or you're the lowest bid.

It’s a very challenging place to play, and not great for beginners.

If you’re thinking.. ok so you’re telling me that all I need to do is get commercial repaint jobs with property managers and investors..

Yes, but..

Thinking that’s “all you need to do” is kind of like saying all you need to do to make it big in the stock market is invest in startups with rising stock values.

Obviously there's a lot more to it than that.

There's a lot of nuances and small details that will make or break you.

Asking the right questions (and knowing what to ask) is crucial.

You’ll be shocked at some of the questions you need to ask


Things like.. Will there be electricity? Will there be water? Is there a spot to park my lift?

Imagine not knowing you’ll have to pay to have a lift towed to and from a job site every single day for 5 days.

That happened on a job in downtown Chicago… luckily the guy bidding the job knew to ask that, and factored in the $5,000 extra that’d cost him.

How would you like to lose $5,000 from missing one question on a scope of work?

Bidding on a commercial job also takes a lot of time, so you only want to bid on jobs that you know are going to be worth it..

That you have a high likelihood of landing.

Unlike residential where it takes an hour or less to do an estimate.. It takes 10-15 hours to put together a thorough scope of work and bid.

You don’t want that time to be wasted because of what you don’t know.

Like someone I know.. He decided he didn’t want to keep missing out on commercial opportunities..

So he started pursuing them on his own… and submitted 50 bids (that’s around 500-750 hours of work).

How many jobs do you think he landed?

Zero.

Not because he wasn’t qualified to do the job, or because his bid was incorrect..

Not even because he was new and no one had heard of him..

It was all because he didn’t know one small detail about the type of jobs he was bidding on.

Had he been guided by a commercial painting veteran, he wouldn’t have wasted 6 months of his life and hundreds of hours of time..

With his drive, determination and willingness to put those hours in..

I’m willing to bet he’d have landed at least $500,000 in jobs during that 6 months if he knew that one detail.

So, why am I telling you all this?

My goal is to help people get into commercial painting without the big risks, so you can confidently pursue and cash in on the opportunities.

And start getting results like these:


This is the perfect “add-on” to a residential painting business..
there’s no “transition” needed

Another misconception that stops people from pursuing commercial opportunities is this idea that they’re not ready to transition their business…

That’s not necessary.

What we do (and I suggest you do) is start by focusing on a very easy segment of the market called commercial repaints.

These are almost exactly the same as residential jobs as far as the type of job and equipment needed.

You can use the same crews as you do with your residential work too.

And the profit margins can be just as high.

Would you rather go after the work that takes 30-60 days to get paid, you sign their contract, you have to work around other trades and at best you make 25% profit? 

Or would you rather the work where you can make twice as much profit margin, you can get paid right away, you're not working around other trades.. and they're signing your contract... not theirs. 

There’s massive upside here and very little to no downside.

For me personally, I saw the opportunities in commercial painting for years before I finally decided to pursue the commercial market.

I was too concerned about the risks…

And I didn’t think I was ready.

I finally decided I wasn’t going to let this big money keep passing by me.

I tried searching for a way to learn how to do it... and came up short.

One way to learn is to work for another commercial painting company.

But no business owner is going to put their own business on hold and go work as an employee to learn commercial painting.

That’s why I decided to just start pursuing commercial jobs on my own.

The first few jobs actually went well.

But then I got my first painful lesson.

It stung, and I knew there would be more.

I’d heard the typical learning curve for commercial painting is around 5+ years..

5+ years getting my ass kicked.. Losing money, losing time, losing opportunities…

Learning from each mistake and noting it for the next time around.

Not to mention losing valuable relationships and hurting my reputation along the way.

So once again I went searching for some way to shortcut my learning curve.

And after a lot of searching, I finally found a solution.

But it wasn’t cheap.

I came across a mentor named Scott Lollar with 30+ years experience in commercial painting.

He’s also an expert in operations and scaling commercial painting companies.

You can't stump Scott on anything in the commercial world. He knows this forward and backwards and consults people.

The companies Scott typically consults range from $500,000-$4M per year (and growing).

He loves helping people avoid the big expensive mistakes that he’s learned in his years of experience (after having learned the hard way).

But his rate for personal consulting in the commercial market is about $300 per hour…

And I was going to need 100+ hours to build my entire commercial system…

I know because building my residential systems has taken well over 100 hours just writing them up...

That’s over $30k I was planning on spending with Scott... Plus all of my time.

Which is well worth it.

Not only because it would take YEARS to learn what he can teach someone in weeks.

But also saves them from tens of thousands of dollars in mistakes, possible bankruptcy.. and all the stress, time, energy, and lost opportunity costs that go along with that.

I’m lucky enough to be in a position that I can afford to hire Scott one-on-one, but I know not everyone is.

So I decided, instead of only getting one-on-one coaching for myself...

I wanted to continue to help others in the painting industry like I have been for the past 15+ years.

So we can all shortcut the learning curve together, and avoid the painful and expensive mistakes.

And start landing these highly profitable jobs fast, while avoiding the risks, with a 30 year commercial veteran who has seen it all as an ally and coach.

For the past year we’ve been hard at work, putting literally hundreds of hours of work into a program that allows any residential painting contractor to easily add commercial painting to their existing business…
  • Without the risks
  • In a very simple way (you’ll follow the simplified business model that gets rid of the usual complexities)
  • ​Without wasting years learning the hard way and getting screwed over and pushed around by GCs and other sharks
I’m really proud of what we put together for you…

The Painting Business Pro Commercial Membership

This has everything you need to start landing these jobs with confidence…

We will teach you how to avoid the risks…

We’ll teach you how to spot the opportunities…

And we’ll be in your corner and have your back every step of the way.

What You’re Going to Get With the Painting Business Pro Commercial Membership

#1 - Master Commercial Repaints with Scott Lollar ($25,000 value)

Including…

The questions to ask immediately on an inbound call to screen out time-wasting bids.

The story you want to get out of your prospects (and how to do it) that makes it easy to position yourself as the perfect solution for their needs.

The key to portraying the confidence of a veteran, even on your first job (part of this is simply faking it until you make it. The second part is much easier, just say these exact phrases we give you).

What commercial market segments to avoid so you don’t make costly mistakes.

Simple ways to create a bond with a certain type of prospect (these are the easy jobs you want), even if you're new in commercial.

A type of estimate someone might ask you to do over the phone that's an immediate red flag.

How to turn a lost bid into a good relationship that opens the door for further work (and what to say to screen potential relationships ahead of time, so you avoid the wrong types of prospects).

4 places you want to add a new connection to be sure they stay "in your world".

Things that seem like red flags to most people during a negotiation, but actually aren't (this is why it's key to know what true red flags are, so you aren't missing good opportunities, and are avoiding big losses).

Which prospects/clients to schmooze and which this approach will backfire with.

How to set up your foundation for commercial work.

How to get found as a commercial painter - NOT a residential painter that also sometimes does commercial work.

Common website mistakes that cause you to lose jobs you’re a great fit for.

The surprising answer to when certifications will help you land jobs and when they won’t.

How to generate opportunities so your commercial pipeline stays full.

Every question you need for a comprehensive scope of work that eliminates the mistakes that can put you out of business.

How to manage, nurture, and leverage your commercial relationships so you can turn 1 job into a pipeline full of work.

How to make sure your contracts cover your ass, so you’re not setting yourself up to be screwed over and never paid (or paid late).

The way to structure your business so that when your business is ready to grow - you are too.

All of this comes with easy, to the point training videos designed to be implemented in just a few small steps.

You’ll also get access to all the documents you need to start adding commercial repaints to your business.

This “250 page operations manual” includes…

- Standard operating procedures (SOPs)
- Checklists for scope of work, project planning,
- Document templates (including contracts, terms and conditions, tenant notices)
- Scripts for easy implementation
- Plus a lot more, there are about 60 total documents, checklists, and SOPs included

We also provide a video walkthrough on how all the documents and systems work.

We keep it simple so you don’t have to think about anything.

And it doesn’t stop there…

We also brought another coach on board who is contributing a massively valuable add-on to the program.

His name is Greg Miller. He built a $1M+ company with $0 marketing spend, and has trained over 200 painting contractors to do the same.

His expertise is in blueprint bidding, and he’s bid more than $100 million from blueprints.

So you’re also going to get:

#2 - General Contracting Work with Greg Miller ($2500 value)

You’ll learn how to bid and estimate from blueprints with detailed training, over the shoulder take-offs, and example pricing for different regions.

Greg covers where you find the good GC work, what to look out for, and how to protect yourself.

This is EXTREMELY valuable if you want to go after big commercial paint jobs.

Greg will give you an over-the-shoulder, step-by-step walkthrough on how to do this.

This course builds on and adds to everything you’ll learn with Scott.

You’ll walk away with everything you need to know to estimate and land these jobs, in comprehensive detail, so you’re covered in any scenario.. such as:

What we do to get around contractors restricting the use of subcontractors (and no, it doesn’t involve not using our subcontractors).

The federated insurance danger you need to know about so you won't get dropped unexpectedly.

2 words used in the commercial world (especially with GCs) that you'll want a good understanding of, because they mean something different here than outside of commercial.

One sentence to say at the end of a conversation with a potential prospect that can get you a project right away (sounds obvious, but almost no one does this).

And on top of everything else, you also get...

#3 - Ongoing Coaching, Support, and Course Updates ($2500/year value)

You’ll have support and experts in your corner…

3 times a month we host a live webinar - one with Scott, one with Greg, and one with me + a guest speaker.

As a member of the commercial program, you can come on to these webinars and get direct advice on whatever question you have regarding your commercial painting business.

Our experts are in your corner. They want to see you succeed.

The point of this is to get you results quickly.

The course on its own already massively speeds up your learning curve.

But we’re going one step further and providing a community full of support for you along the way.

What is it worth to have several multi-million dollar commercial painting business veterans as your mentors?

Imagine being able to personally ask both a 30+ year veteran of commercial painting, and an expert in blueprint bidding to help you with a bid.

Getting on a call and saying..

Hey Scott, I'm interested in this project, can you take a look at it?

Hey Scott, I'm working on bidding this contract, can you talk me through the sales process?

Hey Greg, can you take a look at this contract and make sure I didn’t miss anything?

For me personally, Greg helped us with a $1.4M bid with a GC.

I probably would have been afraid to bid that job without his help.

We’re including this for you because we’re invested in seeing you succeed.

With the added community, you’re literally cutting a 5 - 10+ year learning curve down to months... maybe even weeks depending on what market segment you focus on.

We also have guest webinars for you to join each month.

These are to help inspire you, get you thinking outside the box and seeing what’s possible.

Matt’s guest webinar presentation inspired one of our students, Patrick, to go out and get two $15k jobs right away.

Another of our guests, Roderick, has an average job size of $300k.

Hearing about what others are doing expands your awareness of what’s out there..

It opens your eyes to the massive amount of opportunities in front of you every day.

The 2nd way you get support is with our private Facebook group.

We have over 100 people in the commercial course and this private community gets stronger every day.

That’s 100 people who are going through the process of starting or building their commercial painting business…

Where you can learn from others, see their questions, get inspiration, and ask questions.

If you have a question - odds are, they’ve encountered the same issue and they’ll have real-world advice on how they handled it.

This membership is how you maintain access to:
  • The 3 monthly coaching webinars
  • The Private Membership Group (Facebook)
  • All Course Updates (Scott’s and Greg’s courses) as we keep updating them and making them better
This is the full PBP Commercial Painting Membership program… and it is the entire blueprint for how to tackle this market.

Any questions that aren’t answered directly in the program, you can ask in our private group or on the monthly coaching webinars.

On top of everything already included in the membership above…

Bonus - Scott’s 16 Week, 8 Session Mastermind (normally $1200)

Scott is holding his 4 month mastermind program, which most people pay an extra $1200 for… 

Which you’ll be included in for free.

He’ll walk you through the entire program to make sure you have support, you implement, and you get results.

The sooner you sign up, the sooner you can start diving into the material.

Here’s everything that's included in this special offer, available until the deadline:

#1 - Commercial Repaints with Scott Lollar including all training videos and documentation

#2 - General Contracting Work, Blueprint Reading and Estimating with Greg Miller

#3 - Ongoing Coaching and Support: Webinars, Private Members Group and Course Updates

Bonus: Scott’s 4 Month Mastermind

Normally this whole package is $11,200 plus $2,500 per year.

You can get it all for $7,000 and gain LIFETIME access to everything included.

**Payment Plan available**

Here’s a Full Recap of What You’re Getting Today

#1 - Mastering Commercial Repaints with Scott Lollar (Normally $25,000)
#2 - Blueprint Reading & Estimating with Greg Miller (Normally $2,500) 
#3 - Ongoing Coaching & Support (Normally, $250 per month or $2500 per year)
Bonus #1 - Mastermind with Scott Lollar (Normally $1200)
Bonus #2 - PBP Team Building (Normally $1497)

#1 - Mastering Commercial Repaints with Scott Lollar (Normally $5,000)

#2 - Blueprint Reading & Estimating with Greg Miller (Normally $2,500) 

#3 - Ongoing Coaching & Support (Normally, $250 per month or $2500 per year)

Bonus #1
Mastermind with Scott Lollar (Normally $1200)

Bonus #2
PBP Team Building 
(Normally $1497)

Normally this whole package is $13,697 plus $2,500 per year.

Although in reality it’s worth much, much more.

If it helps you land one job that makes you $35,000 in profit next month… you’ve already more than doubled your investment.

If it saves you from making one $25,000 mistake.. it’s already more than paid for your investment.

And I’m being conservative here.

As you’ve seen.. Tai went from brand new to commercial painting to booking $500,000 in jobs in her first 6 months.

It pays to have experts in your corner.

We closed a $700k job because of Scott's coaching.

Kevin won his $63k job because of Scott's coaching.

You can get it all for $7,000 and gain LIFETIME access to everything included.

It’s nearly impossible to find anyone teaching this stuff.

Because there’s just not that much incentive to do it.

I ran into a big problem when I was trying to learn this.. people didn’t want to reveal their trade secrets…

Just think about it - if you were making several hundred thousand dollars a year in commercial painting…

Would you want to freely share your information?

I even tried to offer some of these guys money (good money!)

But there wasn’t any amount of money that was worth it to them.

They were making too much money on their own business to bother giving away their trade secrets… 

One Friend Of Mine Got Defensive When I Only Asked
HOW He LEARNED To Estimate

Everyone was willing to share the “basics” and some general info… But when it came down to specifics, nobody wanted to share those.

So not only do people not want to share their trade secrets... 

It's also a ton of work to put all this together.

It’s much more work than just going out and doing one of these jobs.

Most guys would rather be out landing these big jobs for themselves than laboriously putting hundreds of hours into teaching others to get them.

$7000 is ridiculously low, and we are raising the price within the next few weeks. 

When we first opened this up, we were only charging $3,000 because it was in its very first version of the program and we wanted to get plenty of feedback to improve on it.

Then we raised the investment to $5,000. 

Neither of those prices will ever be available again, and soon this $7,000 offer will also be gone forever.  

Remember, this is lifetime access, and we are continually adding to and updating the training..

So it becomes more valuable over time (which is why the price will go up too, but you have a chance to get in now and basically take advantage of us by getting the future training additions and updates for free).

If you wait, you’ll be paying more. Maybe $5k more, maybe $10k more.

We haven’t decided that yet.

And, of course, you’ll have missed out on boatloads of money in the meantime while waiting.

Remember, these opportunities are in front of you every day.

You could literally spot a $10k, $25k or even bigger job this week and have Scott, Greg and I walking you through how to bid, sell, and deliver that job.

When you look back 3-5 months from now, your life and business can look completely different than it does today… you can be working on jobs that are making you $40k in a week. 

Or you can be making the same money you are now and missing out on the big jobs. 

It’s your choice.

Here’s where to get in: 
If you’re still reading, then you might be thinking…

Now that you’ve told me some of the best jobs to go after, why not just do it on my own?

You can do it alone and learn the hard way. It’ll be a good 5+ years of making expensive mistakes, burning bridges, losing important relationships because of what you don’t know yet.

All it takes is one missed question.. one missed detail on a bid.. to cost you tens of thousands.

So if you want to go after commercial deals, I recommend having someone in your corner helping you.

I'm telling you from my own experience that it's not easy to find this info elsewhere.

I’ve been asking these questions for years, and it kind of shocked me that no one out there is teaching people.

No one wanted to give away any of the goods.

That's the reason this was created.

You can try to find something like this elsewhere.. but in the meantime the clock is ticking on this deadline.

And you’re losing out on money with every week you aren’t saying yes to commercial opportunities.

You could learn the hard way, and then come back here and join the course later..

After making a few mistakes, losing money, and realizing there are still dozens of other unknowns that’ll lead to losing more money and wasting more time..

At that point, you will have lost the $15k, $40k, or whatever amount it is (most of the stories I’ve heard range from $15k - $100k lost.. on a single job).

And lost relationships that took you time and effort to build..

By that point it'll likely be at least $12k to get into the course, plus yearly fees.

That is an option though.

Another option is to just continue what you’re doing now, and not get into commercial painting at all.

And that’s fine. Residential painting is a great business.

I’m assuming the reason you’re here is that you do want to grab these big opportunities, and earn multiple 7-figures from your business with fewer customers and less hassle.

If so, you can shortcut the process and gain 40 years of collective knowledge to eliminate the risks and land big jobs within months (even weeks).

The question is ...will you do it now while you have the chance to start profiting from these big projects right now with our help?

Or keep waiting.. Keep missing out on opportunities everyday, and try to get in later at a higher price.

The choice is yours.

Here’s where to go to join us:
If you’re still reading, here’s something to keep in mind..

This is not just about avoiding losing money on a job.

It’s also about not losing relationships that cost you jobs if you screw things up.

Say you land 3 jobs worth $550k over the next 9 months..

Something goes wrong that could have been avoided.. That relationship is lost..

And you’ve lost the other 2 jobs.. And the relationship with that guy, plus anyone else he talks to about it.

Property managers, investors, GCs etc don’t work in a vacuum. They hang out with other property managers and investors.

So when they find a painter they’re happy with, they tell other property managers.

And when a project goes south with a painter, they don’t recommend them to their buddies.

There are 5 types of risks with every commercial job

1* Missing something in the bid and losing money on the project itself.

2* Missing something in the contract and not being paid at all, or being paid late.

3* Losing relationships (that took time and effort to build, putting all that to waste and hurting your reputation).

Relationships that were worth $200k/yr, $500k/yr or more… are gone.

4* The time and money you lose on the project that went south…time that could have been spent starting on the next project...

So instead of making $10k this week and another $10k next week...

You make a mistake and lose $5k this week, the project is delayed into next week .. losing you the other $10k too.

5* Never bidding on jobs you could have landed and done a great job on, because you’re afraid to try (because you don’t have experts in your corner to show you what to do).

So you lose $250k, $550k, $750k or more in a single year ... that could have been yours, but is now in someone else’s pocket who did get in and pursue it.

With all that in mind, it’s a bit crazy to me to not invest in something that gives you these opportunities and takes the risks away.

The only reason I can imagine that happening is if you don’t believe you can avoid these risks with our help.

So here’s what to consider..

You’re not just getting one person’s experience here.

Collectively you’re getting more than 40 years of experience between all the coaches..

Not to mention the network of other commercial painters you’ll have access to in the group.

Even if it took you half the time to learn everything Scott and Greg know on your own, that’s still a 20 year learning curve.

Would you rather know all of this right now, or in 20 years.. after making painful and costly mistakes along the way?

They learned the hard way already, so you don’t have to.

Wouldn’t you rather spend your time building your business and actually applying these systems rather than creating these systems? 

Or spending time with your family? 

Instead of re-doing all of the work we’ve already done on this?

… And it’s not like we’re just some random guys in a Facebook group…

Everything we’re sharing with you is PROVEN TO WORK. 

Because what’s in this program is being taught by Scott and used by commercial painting contractors right now in his 1on1 coaching… 

And the blueprint estimating course is how Greg and his students are estimating and winning profitable commercial jobs right now…

So yea - you COULD do this on your own… But that would be foolish.

Or You Could Ignore This And Keep Watching Commercial Jobs Pass You By… Watching Your Competitors Win Them Instead...

Which would be just fine...

There is nothing wrong with staying where you are and doing residential painting...

You'll never even know what you are missing. 

But how much work will pass you by because of a lack of knowledge? 

How many jobs will you NOT win because you don’t know how to bid them, or how to produce them?

How much money will you continue to leave on the table?

If you knew the commercial business as well as you knew the residential business...
→ You would make more money.
→ You would diversify your business.
→ And, if you’re like Greg, you might prefer going 100% commercial…

But if you’re not interested in any of that, this course probably isn't for you. And there is nothing wrong with that.

If you are though.. now is the time to join: 
Frequently Asked Questions
Is this all online? 

Yes, as soon as you click the Get Started button and enter your info, you will enter the member’s area and have immediate access to all the training to go through at your own pace. 

Will I be getting 1-on-1 help? 

Through our Facebook community, you will be able to ask questions directly to the coaches anytime, and receive personal support through there. 

You also are able to join 3 LIVE group coaching calls each month where you and other students can get your questions answered live on the call. 

These are super valuable because not only do you get your own questions answered, but you’ll hear others asking valuable questions you hadn’t thought of. These are also recorded and made available to you to watch anytime. 

How do I know if I’m ready to transition to Commercial painting? 

What we teach is the perfect “add-on” to a residential painting business.. there’s no “transition” needed. You can do it alongside your existing business. 

What we do (and I suggest you do) is start by focusing on a very easy segment of the market called commercial repaints. These are almost exactly the same as residential jobs as far as the type of job and equipment needed. 

You can use the same crews as you do with your residential work too. And the profit margins can be just as high. There’s massive upside here and little to no downside.

How do I join and get started?

Click the “Register” button below and complete the order form. Once you confirm your purchase, you’ll receive an email and be able to access the training immediately.

How do I use it and apply it?

We will provide clear action steps to take in each session so you can build your commercial painting division one step at a time with the support of your coaches and fellow participants.

There will be plenty of interaction and an opportunity to get questions answered throughout and after the program.